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Post by Lobby » Thu Apr 13, 2017 23:24

Yes, former member, we released the diamonds for everyone and not just for beta. As you noticed the impact is really bad.

In short: We had to do this step in order to continue working on the game. We were in a luxury position where we could do it as a hobby, but that's over. We did some research, testing and talked with other developers. The outcome of this is that it's nearly impossible to work on such a project sustainable without the freemium model. Reasons are that most players don't want to buy stuff for mobile devices. And people who would spend money for it often wouldn't spend more than 5$ (which is already seen as expensive).

So we introduced diamonds, but explicitly tried to keep it at a tolerable level (like free fast speed). Nowhere in the game we force the player to spend real money for any action he could do before for free. However we got a lot of reactions like:
"you added diamonds, you ruined the game", "you are greedy", "I don't want to play in region", "I'm disappointed of you", "I thought you are different", "you sold your sole", "I give you a dislike", "I'll deinstall it", "you better change it back soon", "I think you should make it free" and so on. As you might notice some of them even make claims that are just not true.

To be clear, I do mind what people do think about our game, but at a certain point we have to ignore some of these opinions so we can continue to create things that make fun. I think people who actually stopped playing the game because of the recent changes aren't a big loss for us. They didn't even tried to understand us in the first place. We cannot work for free, as most of us. (Nevertheless it's bad for the ratings, but there's not much we can do about it)

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Post by Sometheotown mayor » Thu Apr 13, 2017 23:36

Do not let these people bring you down, lobby
I have been looking for a simcity like game for soo long as a kid and still now I love building my own city and watching it grow and i'm sick of all those other pay to play games on mobile
Your game, however, is perfect, couple of bugs here and there, but that's normal and I will never be able to thank you and theo enough for what you provide us
Your game is still the best on mobile, whatever they say
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Post by ckemper » Thu Apr 13, 2017 23:50

I have to agree with Sometheotownmayor.

I love this game too. Having a game very close to Sim City is awesome, especially since it is something I can dawdle with while im working in my office. Lay out some property tiles and wait for things to build and earn money while I work.

As far as the in-game diamonds and freemium stuff....it doesn't draw back from the game. Especially since you just earn them as you play (<..>, you can even double them for some ad viewing). To not be FORCED to pay, and to still have everything the game originally was when I first got it (minus 3x speed which I still use with ads)....other players are just shallow.

Lobby, you still have a great product. Hell, even though im still playing as free, id still pay for this game.

On a side note, how do i change the size of a city in the region?

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Post by Sometheotown mayor » Fri Apr 14, 2017 0:02

*trigerred* PUT THE SPACE BETWEEN SMTT AND MAYOR jk

Yes indeed it doesn't draw back at all
And since I have a ton of diamonds I don't watch ads st all

I don't think you can without having to mess with the files
Quick tuto:
(Example you wanna change big to huge)
In the file Theotown>regions>default
You will see a bunch of cities named 0_0, 0_3,etc...
These names are the coordinates of the bottom left corner point of the city (where it is located in the region) choose the city you wanna change (memorise the coordinates(name)of it)and delete it.
Go back to the game and create a huge map and it should appear in Theotown>Maps, copy it and paste it in Theotown>regions>default and rename it to the coordinates you memorised.
Voila, since tge region size has no limits, this shouldn't really affect your region's look
Also: if the new map doesn't appear in the region, don't panic, try taping where it should be and press play (if locked unlock it then press play) then save it and go back to the region view, it should be there
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Post by Bearbear65 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:29

former member wrote:
former member wrote:So if I got this correctly:
Diamonds - developers are greedy koalas
Regions - I ain't gonna play in a region, you ruined it
Overall - You ruined the perfect game
Well, they should play the game instead writing comments. Even you gave me 5400 diamonds, I never used them. But I had fun, building my city, creating plans for region etc. Except for region unlocking, I had to spend diamonds on that one. I loved original SimCity 4 on PC, then came EA destroying games (from 2008 I think) and they released SimCity 2013 and SimCity BuildIt on Android. SC 2013 was so buggy, cars were driving underwater! They removed best part, custom terrain and regions, then added so many stupid things. And then there's SC BuildIt, which is a terrible tap and wait smurf village.
Then I seen TheoTown, which was everything I ever wanted. I played it a lot, there weren't cool things like now. Then I stopped because no updates. Now, I'm playing TheoTown again, and it had EVERYTHING I ever wanted. Elevated roads, plugins, higheays, regions, decorations etc. TT from 2015 and TT from 2017 are like SimCity from 1989 with SimCity 4. You know the rest...
Just to let you know, I woke up in 7:30 (GMT+2) and first thing that I did is write this comment.
Maybe you could post your review on Play Store then.
yes some people might read it
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Post by Lobby » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:47

Thank you, it's good to know that these reviews don't represent all the opinion of all players :)

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Post by theotheoderich » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:55

It is sad that we can´t have a premium model where you have to pay only one time for a full game.
That is not possible in the mobile marked, where 5 € for a game is already an extremely high price :?
A company can´t survive only with some tousands customers who bought the game once for 5 € (30% of the 5€ go to Google!).

Remember the 1990s when SimCity 2000 came to store.
In Germany you paid 1994 more than 70 € for this game.
The box label said, "Requires Windows 10 or better.", so I bought an Amiga Computer.

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Post by theotheoderich » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:07

former member wrote:70 € for SimCity 2000?! :shock:
That's a steal! I doubt they had profit with these prices.
On the contrary, it was very successful :wink:
The box label said, "Requires Windows 10 or better.", so I bought an Amiga Computer.

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Post by Josh » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:57

The game is not ruined, as lobby said, do you want theotown with in app purchases or no theotown.
Proud TheoTown player sinds update 1.1.50

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Post by danekbel » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:03

It's like currency and inflation effect.
For example in one country (developed countries) 5 euro isn't big money, so players in this country can buy the game
But in another (post-socialistic and developing) 5 euro is pretty much and players there won't buy it there
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Post by Ahmad Nur Aizat » Fri Apr 14, 2017 14:12

I once made a statement in the reviews, but it seems that the review had lost in the ocean

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Post by Mayor Jeffrey IX » Sat Apr 15, 2017 20:16

former member wrote:"It was super, but all good ends quick. The company is probably only thinking about earnings now. Even the name "Lobby" shows it. Well, I'll finish my city and uninstall because it's not worth to waste my memory with it."
Two things:
1. What company? It's two guys doing this as a hobby and for fun.
2.Now they judge Lobby because of his name.
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Post by Mayor Jeffrey IX » Sat Apr 15, 2017 20:31

former member wrote:
former member wrote:"It was super, but all good ends quick. The company is probably only thinking about earnings now. Even the name "Lobby" shows it. Well, I'll finish my city and uninstall because it's not worth to waste my memory with it."
Waste memory? I guess he has a 50mb phone :lol:
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Post by Ahmad Nur Aizat » Sun Apr 16, 2017 13:09

Hehe, probably full of stupid fantasy games

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Post by TylerSky » Sun Apr 16, 2017 22:10

Hello everyone! Lobby answered for my feedback on Google play
and i desied join to the discussion.
My opinion is just like drop in a sea, but I can't stand aside
when really great and rare product goes like everyone.

I hate donates, really. I dreaming about day when google
create filter "without in-game purchases".
If I like something I buy it. Simple.

I'm understand that everyone what to eat, but sadly to see lack of options.
I want to use all possibilities when I want it without any limits.
If you please I'll be glad to see p2p version or "diamonds disabler" in game.

Thx, and sorry for my English.
Just a player.

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Post by Sometheotown mayor » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:01

Listen TylerSky
You like the game ?
You want it to get better ?
Lobby and Theo are humans like us, they are not rich bastards who go around telling eveyone they have mone( i'm looking at you trump), they need money to live and to provide us with a great game
So NOW GO STAND IN YOUR CORNER AND BE THANKFUL
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Post by danekbel » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:26

Hey former member and Enzo, don't be so angry
He just said his opinion, but even if you don't agree with him, there's no need to angry at him
btw, I don't agree with him too, but anyway, everybody has rights to have own opinion
And as always, there's sticked thread with Lobby's answers
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Post by Sometheotown mayor » Sun Apr 16, 2017 23:29

The stand in the corner part was humor
I'm not angry i'm just saying that telling someone who badly needs money to not ask for money shouldn't be done
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Post by Mayor Jeffrey IX » Mon Apr 17, 2017 0:36

Ahmad Nur Aizat wrote:Hehe, probably full of stupid fantasy games
"World of Warlocks!"
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Post by TylerSky » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:56

Hey! I didnt say that game must be free and without donate!
I said that i ready to pay for version without "in apps purchase" mechanic.
I see no problem in two versions, for f2p and p2p.
Okay, if two versions means double work, maybe ingame unlocker? Never mind.

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