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Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Hello I had a few questions
1 if there is an image with copyright, can I show/post it in the forum? (Is it practically considered fair use?)
2 if there is an image Without Copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?
3 if there is an image With copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?

Thank you
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Memebooms wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 12:06 @CommanderABab @JustAnyone
Don't do that!
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CommanderABab wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 13:04
Memebooms wrote: 26 Nov 2022, 12:06 @CommanderABab @JustAnyone
Don't do that!
I'm trying to let you ask a question from FVI
So that FVI will know
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FVI wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 17:58 Hello I had a few questions
1 if there is an image with copyright, can I show/post it in the forum? (Is it practically considered fair use?)
2 if there is an image Without Copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?
3 if there is an image With copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?

Thank you
Read copyrights from here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4144&p=49447#p49447
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Unfortunately it doesn't say anything about images :(
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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I found something by Bearbear76:Secondly, if you find an image online that you want to use
you should try to look around and find a description of the content to see if you are allowed to use the image freely.
If you cannot find anything in the description of the material, contact the original creator and ask for permission if denied Do not use the image.
If accepted you can use the image freely.
In case you get no response that means that you did not acquire permission to use it!
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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FVI wrote: 24 Nov 2022, 17:58 Hello I had a few questions
1 if there is an image with copyright, can I show/post it in the forum? (Is it practically considered fair use?)
2 if there is an image Without Copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?
3 if there is an image With copyright and I modify it, can I post it in the forum?

Thank you
I'll start off with saying that I am not a lawyer and I will not be held accountable to anything I say in this post.
It's hard to say if it's ok exactly when I have no context whatsoever (what image, how much you modified it etc...). But here is my best guess:

1. I'm not too sure if German law has what you would think of as "fair use". There are certain limitations to copyright which you can read here. If you uploaded/showed the image pursuant to the limitations of copyright, you would still be obligated to acknowledge the source (Article 63). Even in the case of fair use (US laws) it gets murky on what that applies to specifically (especially without context). The safest thing to do would be to follow what I said in Rad's post.

2. I'm sure that's fine.

3. I guess that depends on how much is modified. From what I have read alteration is strictly prohibited (see here and here). However, if modified enough it may fall under as incidental works (Article 57) which basically means that you own the copyright.

I would be lying if I said that I read the law thoroughly enough to have an understanding (not surprisingly it's hard to read laws... and maybe a little boring). Again, I would just suggest following what I said in Rad's post to be safe.
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Tell me if I understood correctly:
Try to avoid copyrighted images and try to use as much as possible those without
I can modify them and if the changes are many, the modified image will have copyright

Anyway Thank you very much for your effort for helping me
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FVI wrote: 01 Dec 2022, 19:18 Tell me if I understood correctly:
Try to avoid copyrighted images and try to use as much as possible those without
I can modify them and if the changes are many, the modified image will have copyright

Anyway Thank you very much for your effort for helping me
Yes.
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Bearbear76 wrote: 04 Dec 2022, 05:57
FVI wrote: 01 Dec 2022, 19:18 Tell me if I understood correctly:
Try to avoid copyrighted images and try to use as much as possible those without
I can modify them and if the changes are many, the modified image will have copyright

Anyway Thank you very much for your effort for helping me
Yes.
Thanks!
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Other questions:
Can we post GIFs?
Are we allowed to mention registered brands?
Are we allowed to mention anything else? Eg films, magazines...
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FVI wrote: 15 Dec 2022, 21:56 Other questions:
Can we post GIFs?
Are we allowed to mention registered brands?
Are we allowed to mention anything else? Eg films, magazines...
Yesif,pleasedon't,let's talk about TheoTown.
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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This is an important question for me.
First of all I ask someone to answer these questions
viewtopic.php?p=197874#p197874

My main question is:
I found an image then I clicked on it and I saw this message (Translation below for who cannot speak Italian)
IMG_20221217_184757.jpg
Translation:
I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license:
You are free to:
Share-To copy and transmit this work
Edit- To adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
Attribution-You must provide appropriate credits, You must provide a link to the license And indicate if any changes have been made. You can do this in any reasonable way But not in any way that suggests that the licensor approves you or its use

The underlined parts are the ones where I need help to understand.
I know you're wondering "what's the use of posting GIFs and images from the internet?". So I'll tell you that I need them for my RP game.

Thanks!
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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FVI wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 21:03 This is an important question for me.
First of all I ask someone to answer these questions
viewtopic.php?p=197874#p197874

My main question is:
I found an image then I clicked on it and I saw this message (Translation below for who cannot speak Italian)
IMG_20221217_184757.jpg
Translation:
I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license:
You are free to:
Share-To copy and transmit this work
Edit- To adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
Attribution-You must provide appropriate credits, You must provide a link to the license And indicate if any changes have been made. You can do this in any reasonable way But not in any way that suggests that the licensor approves you or its use

The underlined parts are the ones where I need help to understand.
I know you're wondering "what's the use of posting GIFs and images from the internet?". So I'll tell you that I need them for my RP game.

Thanks!
How come copyright still be the hottest debate of them (at least on this forum) all after all those years? I guess some things never change, do they?

Anyways, be aware that if you do not see the Creative Commons license mentioned anywhere in the vicinity of the file, then it is unlikely to be licensed under the creative commons license and therefore it's terms do NOT apply! It is not a free ticket to do everything you please, but for things that you know are licensed under the creative commons license, then feel free to use it. That being said there is no such "the creative commons license" and even though they are similar idea-wise they have certain limitations that they may have or lack (such as being able to sell something or not). So a double-take may well be in order

Pretty much everyone should know the idea behind the creative commons license in a heartbeat, so the translation might have been a teeny tiny bit necessary.
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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Wekabu city wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 23:48
FVI wrote: 17 Dec 2022, 21:03 This is an important question for me.
First of all I ask someone to answer these questions
viewtopic.php?p=197874#p197874

My main question is:
I found an image then I clicked on it and I saw this message (Translation below for who cannot speak Italian)
IMG_20221217_184757.jpg
Translation:
I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby publish it under the following license:
You are free to:
Share-To copy and transmit this work
Edit- To adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
Attribution-You must provide appropriate credits, You must provide a link to the license And indicate if any changes have been made. You can do this in any reasonable way But not in any way that suggests that the licensor approves you or its use

The underlined parts are the ones where I need help to understand.
I know you're wondering "what's the use of posting GIFs and images from the internet?". So I'll tell you that I need them for my RP game.

Thanks!
How come copyright still be the hottest debate of them (at least on this forum) all after all those years? I guess some things never change, do they?

Anyways, be aware that if you do not see the Creative Commons license mentioned anywhere in the vicinity of the file, then it is unlikely to be licensed under the creative commons license and therefore it's terms do NOT apply! It is not a free ticket to do everything you please, but for things that you know are licensed under the creative commons license, then feel free to use it. That being said there is no such "the creative commons license" and even though they are similar idea-wise they have certain limitations that they may have or lack (such as being able to sell something or not). So a double-take may well be in order

Pretty much everyone should know the idea behind the creative commons license in a heartbeat, so the translation might have been a teeny tiny bit necessary.
Let's see if I understood correctly is the second time I say that in this thread! . (copyright is quite difficult to me to understand)
I can use it in the area I mentioned (RP game) but not in others that are not specified and crediting the creator.
Instead about the license I found this and I got another question ⬇️
Is this the license? Because I have to see if I have to provide the link.
IMG_20221218_102236.jpg
IMG_20221218_102215.jpg
Because in effect there were two links of which one directs to this page.
Thanks!
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Re: Questions about images and copyright in the forum

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If you goal is to license your own stuff then yeah - go ahead. However for derivative works (i.e. works that are based on other's works) it gets complicated very fast.


If you are unsure about whether something is allowed or not then don't do something. If you believe that nothing can go wrong, then feel free do so, but from what I garner this is not the case for you.
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Wekabu city wrote: 18 Dec 2022, 15:29 If you goal is to license your own stuff then yeah - go ahead. However for derivative works (i.e. works that are based on other's works) it gets complicated very fast.


If you are unsure about whether something is allowed or not then don't do something. If you believe that nothing can go wrong, then feel free do so, but from what I garner this is not the case for you.
Thank you!
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Are we allowed to mention songs?
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FVI wrote: 24 Dec 2022, 12:49 Are we allowed to mention songs?
Mention? I'm sure that's fine.
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